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Date:         Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:53:23 -0400
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The University of Michigan invites applications and nominations for the
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Date:         Tue, 5 Sep 1995 09:30:07 MET
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From:         Soeren Pold 
Organization: The Humanities, Aarhus University
Subject:      Science vs. technology
I'm editing a Danish journal which has devoted its' next issue to the
relations
between science and literature (Passage - I sent out a call for
manuscripts on the
list a couple of months ago), but it has turned out that many of the
articles dealing
with this relationship in newer 20'th century literature is in fact more
dealing
with technology than science in a strict sense. We (the editors and the
contributers) seem to take it as granted, that science and technology is
the same
thing or maybe technology has partly taken over the role of science as a
"hard"
discourse for literary writers to deal with e.g. in science fiction
which mostly deals
with technology?
Do any of you fellow subscribers have any comments on that? Any
definitions of
the relationship between science and technology? Or any references to
theories of
this relationship? Is technology just applied science and is it just
because of the
advanced level of todays technology that  it has become a strong
discourse in
society and literature while maybe science has become to difficult to
understand?
I'm looking forward to receiving any comments
Yours sincerely
Soeren Pold
Dpt. of Comparative Literature
University of Aarhus
Willemoesgade 15
8200  Aarhus
Denmark
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Date:         Tue, 5 Sep 1995 02:48:04 -0700
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From:         Torin Monahan 
Subject:      Re: Science vs. technology
Soeren Pold,
At 09:30 AM 9/5/95 MET, you wrote:
>Do any of you fellow subscribers have any comments on that? Any
definitions of
>the relationship between science and technology? Or any references
to
theories of
>this relationship?
I would recommend taking a look at _The Norton History of Technology_
by
Donald Cardwell (1995).  He posits that ". . . it is possible to
envisage a
history of technology that is related to the history of science and the
history of ideas generally"(6).  But that the relationship between
science
and technology is complimentary and mutual -- the two function in unison
w/o
one overtly serving the needs of the other.
-Torin Monahan
California State Univ., Northridge.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:47:55 +0000
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From:         Wim Pelt 
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From:          wpelt@mail.euronet.nl
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Date:          Tue, 5 Sep 1995 18:32:25 +0000
Subject:       Re: Science vs. technology
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You wrote inter alia:
> I'm editing a Danish journal which has devoted its' next issue to
the relations
> between science and literature, but it has turned out that many of
the articles dealing
> with this relationship in newer 20'th century literature is in fact
more dealing
> with technology than science in a strict sense. We (the editors and
the
> contributers) seem to take it as granted, that science and
technology is the same
> thing or maybe technology has partly taken over the role of science
as a "hard
"
> discourse for literary writers to deal with e.g. in science fiction
which mostly deals
> with technology?
>
> Do any of you fellow subscribers have any comments on that? Any
definitions of
> the relationship between science and technology?
In a previous post the interrelationship between science and
technology has been pointed out well. The received opionion is, I
believe, them to be mutual enablers, the link being scientific
instruments.
> Or any references to theories of
> this relationship?
I will return to this point here later, if you wish me to do so.
> Is technology just applied science
certainly not in my view. Science, basic or applied, is curiosity
driven, technology application driven- know-why vs know-how. The
difference between basic and applied is what was the origin of the
curiosity, was is raised by search for  the fundamental principles en
by more phenomenal inspiration. BTW, we spend many fruitless hours
discussing this definitions in the science policy field, mostly at
the request of those who determine who  should foot the bill,
government or industry. (science is culture, hence gov, technology
generates profits, hence industry.)
> and is it just because of the
> advanced level of today's technology that  it has become a strong
discourse in
> society and literature
it is probably just more pervasive and certainly more awe-inspiring
>while maybe science has become to difficult to understand?
like modern art? Just a thought.Or maybe its subjects lack general
appeal. As a physicist by training, I always was surprised when I was
still young at the interest from the 'general public' in
astronomy-cosmology and evolution
theory, but man's place in the world and in history is something one
may want to think about, while e g the mechanism of electrical
conduction
deals with just matter and not worth serious effort to understand
> I'm looking forward to receiving any comments
from you
>
Yours sincerely
wim pelt
R&D Coordinator / dept WCS
Ministry of Defence
P O Box 20702; NL-2500 es Den Haag
The Netherlands
R&D Coordinator / dept WCS
Ministry of Defence
P O Box 20702; NL-2500 es Den Haag
The Netherlands
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Date:         Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:15:18 +0200
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From:         Soeren Pold 
Subject:      Re: Science vs. technology
Comments: To: wpelt@euronet.nl
Dear Wim Pelt and others
Thanks for your thoughts about the about the relations between science
and
technology. If you have any references you think I could use, I would
be
glad. Besides you mention previous postings on this subject (I must
have
been sleeping or on holiday). Can you remember around when it was and
what
the headers were? Then I could maybe trace it in some archive.
I find it interesting that you point out that the link between science
and
technology might be scientific instruments and the difference the drive
behind (curiosity vs. application). One could maybe continue and make
this
hypothese about the link between science/technology and literature/art:
What interests literature in science is on the ontological level (basic
questions about the universe, existence and limits for comprehension)
while
what interests literature in technology is more on a realistic level
(how
is reality transformed by technology and the ways science is applied,
understood or maybe even misunderstood in everyday life (e.g. the media
or
genetic manipulation)). But maybe one has to take a historical
development
into account as well. Maybe the development of technology to a point
where
it is getting more and more complex and the effects more and more
widespread and unpredictable results in technology raising questions on
the
ontological level as well (as in media and computer technology)? Right
now
the limits between science and technology may even be blurring to a
point
where new technology is just as ontologically challenging as new
science?
Where technology is put out that we don't know the application for yet
(much of the computer technology may function as a good example on
that)
but have to develop it in daily use? Therefore literature/art might be
a
valuable source for delivering images of how technology and applied
science
actually works (or will work in the future) far away from the lab?
Well maybe my thoughts are getting way beyond the point and I might
need
some instruction from more experienced thinkers in the field. So please
don't hesitate.
Sincerely
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Soeren Pold
Dept. of Comparative Literature
University of Aarhus
phone: +45 8942 1835 (*new*)
fax: +45 8942 1850
http://www.uib.no/ped/tutors/spaarhus.gif
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Date:         Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:38:40 -0400
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From:         David 
Subject:      scholar
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In-Reply-To:  <199411172156.QAA12331@nosferatu.cas.usf.edu>
Is Brenda Laurel affiliated with a university?
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Date:         Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:49:42 -0500
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From:         Joe Amato 
Subject:      Re: scholar
last I knew brenda laurel was with
I n t e r v a l   R e s e a r c h
1801 Page Mill Road,   Building C
Palo Alto, CA  94304        U S A
hope this helps...
joe
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 11:41:13 -0500
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From:         "C. Jason Smith" 
Subject:      Hello
This is simply a message to say "Hello" and to see if anyone
else is
actually on this list.  I've been "on" for a week and haven't
recieved
anything.  Is it possible that I've done something wrong?
C. Jason Smith
University of Arkansas
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:25:20 -0500
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From:         "C. Jason Smith" 
Subject:      Mail
This may sound like an innane question, BUT if I "reply" to a
posting is
it posted to the list or sent directly to the writer of that message?
Jason Smith
Univ. of Arkansas
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 13:33:10 -0400
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From:         Lori Wagner 
Subject:      Re: Hello
In-Reply-To:  

 from "C. Jason
Smith" at Sep 11, 95 11:41:13 am
Hello,
Messages come and go.  Are you receiving this?
Lori Wagner
According to C. Jason Smith:
>
> This is simply a message to say "Hello" and to see if
anyone else is
> actually on this list.  I've been "on" for a week and
haven't recieved
> anything.  Is it possible that I've done something wrong?
>
> C. Jason Smith
> University of Arkansas
>
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 13:07:16 -0500
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From:         Frank Durham 
Subject:      Jason Smith's hello
Jason Smith's opinion is that it's mighty quiet out here--too quiet.
I wonder if Jason got--and read--his orientation material for litsci-l. 
To
see what happened in any month, address listserv@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu with
the
one line message (no salutation or heading)
get litsci-l log9508
for August 1995 listings (95-08, right?).  Or get litsci-l log9411 (for
Nov.
1994), etc.  Do not send commands to litsci-l, only t listserv.
This advice is brought to you by the Society for Literature and
Science.
Contact me for further information about this useful organization.
Frank Durham
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 13:54:05 -0500
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From:         "C. Jason Smith" 
Subject:      Re: Hello
In-Reply-To:  <199509111733.NAA19119@ccat.sas.upenn.edu>
Yes, and thank you.  I think I'm getting the hang of this
("this" being
the new system and my first "active" participation on lists.)
So, what do
we usually "talk" about on Litsci?  I have a paper ciculating
right now
on John Fowles' _The French Lieutenant's Woman_ and Quantum Mechanics.
Does that apply?
Jason Smith
Univ. of Arkansas
On Mon, 11 Sep 1995, Lori Wagner wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Messages come and go.  Are you receiving this?
>
> Lori Wagner
>
> According to C. Jason Smith:
> >
> > This is simply a message to say "Hello" and to see
if anyone else is
> > actually on this list.  I've been "on" for a week
and haven't recieved
> > anything.  Is it possible that I've done something wrong?
> >
> > C. Jason Smith
> > University of Arkansas
> >
>
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 14:41:10 -0400
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From:         Joseph Register 
Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Mail
Jason, its sent to the list.  I haven't found much discussion on this
list
either, but some good announcements.  So - what areas did you want to
talk
about.
Joe
ywunhbb@grove.iup.edu
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 15:17:31 -0400
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From:         Molly Munro 
Subject:      Re: French Lieutenant and Quantum Mechanics
In-Reply-To:  

 from "C. Jason
Smith" at Sep 11, 95 01:54:05 pm
C. Jason Smith wrote:
>
> we usually "talk" about on Litsci?  I have a paper
ciculating right now
> on John Fowles' _The French Lieutenant's Woman_ and Quantum
Mechanics.
> Does that apply?
I'm certainly not going to speak for everyone, but I would certainly
like
to hear more about your paper (I've been working on what is perhaps
something similar with Thomas Hardy's poetry).
Molly Munro
munro@unity.ncsu.edu
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 14:59:24 -0400
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From:         Michael Clark 
Subject:      Reply to Re: Hello
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>Hello,
>
>Messages come and go.  Are you receiving this?
>
>Lori Wagner
>
>According to C. Jason Smith:
>>
>> This is simply a message to say "Hello" and to see if
anyone else is
>> actually on this list.  I've been "on" for a week and
haven't recieved
>> anything.  Is it possible that I've done something wrong?
>>
>> C. Jason Smith
>> University of Arkansas
>>
Yes,
I had subscribed to that list when you inquired of me--and
I never unsubscribed.  So I am getting the occasional message
from the list.
I *have* been on slower lists--if you can believe it.
One list--the only traffic that ever came in was
mis-sent subsubscribe/unsubscribe messages.
It was a bit comical.
mc
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 18:34:16 -0400
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From:         CARPE DIEM! 
Subject:      Re: Reply to Re: Hello
sign-off
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 19:26:21 -0500
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From:         "C. Jason Smith" 
Subject:      Re: Mail
In-Reply-To:  <01HV5J7GSBC2HSK978@grove.iup.edu>
On Mon, 11 Sep 1995, Joseph Register wrote:
> Jason, its sent to the list.  I haven't found much discussion on
this list
> either, but some good announcements.  So - what areas did you want
to talk
> about.
> Joe
> ywunhbb@grove.iup.edu
>
Well, I've been working my way "towards" Chaos Theory in a
sense.  I have
not felt that my science background could support an intensive reading
of any text via complex dynamics, so I've back off a bit to writing on
John Fowles and "Schrodinger's Cat" with a little of Maxwell's
Demon
knocking at the back door.  I am also working with another person
(Anne-Marie Thomas) on a concept which she has termed "The Body
Electronic" which combines some of N. Katherine Hayles' work with
Donna
J. Haraway.  We are focusing primarilly on William Gibson's
_Neuromancer_
and _Count Zero_ for our initial assualt (which we will be presenting
at
Popular Culture in Las Vegas in the spring.  Anyone else going?)
How about "you" (singular and collective).
Jason Smith
Univ. of Arkansas
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 22:41:57 -0400
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From:         Joseph Register 
Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Hello
Jason,
Sounds interesting, how does Q applt to Fowles novel?  If you give me
the gist
of it, I'll try to respond.
Joe R.
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 22:44:08 -0400
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From:         Joseph Register 
Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: French Lieutenant and Quantum Mechanics
Molly,
As with John, your paper ounds interesting.  If you give the gist of it,
I'll
try to respond.
Joe R.
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:07:20 -0400
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From:         Joseph Register 
Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Mail
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:18:33 -0400
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From:         Joseph Register 
Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania
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Jason,
I'm just a little bit familiar with Haraway - and I've read
Neuromancer.
Sounds like an interesting combination.  What's been most productive, or
most
problematic with this?
Besides getting ready for comps, and narrowing down my diss. topic, I'm
involved with a project to put together an encyclopedia on Literature
and the
Environment. I'll forward an announcement about this to you.  I've
already
posted this to litsci, so unless somebody wants me to post it again,
I'll just
send it to you personally.
I deal mainly with environmental issues, but I've
been trying to figure out how to mesh Quantum Theory and Relativity
with
Post-Structuralist and Discourse Theory, they seem like  expressions of
the
same idea to me.  Also, any talk about Loren Eiseley or Lewis Thomas is
always
welcome.
Interesting what's needed to get a conversation going sometimes, don't
you
think?
Joe R.
ywunhbb@grove.iup.edu
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Date:         Mon, 11 Sep 1995 19:36:51 +0000
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From:         Robert Maxwell Young 
Subject:      Re: Mail
>This may sound like an innane question, BUT if I "reply"
to a posting is
>it posted to the list or sent directly to the writer of that
message?
>
>Jason Smith
>Univ. of Arkansas
If the message came via the list and you hit 'Reply', it will go to the
whole list. I have embarrassed myself this way. Always check the 'To'
line
before sending a message. It may look like it came from an individual
but
he or she may also be out of it and may have sent it to the whole list.
I
once sent a huge document (requested by an individual via the list) to
a
whole list and for days lived in fear of being flamed. An abject
apology
saved me. Bob Y
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From:         Soeren Pold 
Subject:      Re: Mail
Sounds interesting with Jason Smith's presentation of "The Body
Electronic". I'd like to hear more about it though I regret that
Las Vegas
is a bit far to go, even though it is a fantastic place! Which texts
are
you using?
I am working on a project which studies the perception and use of new
visual media in 19.th. century French literature (Panorama and other
-oramas leading to photography and film (the kosmorama)) and tryes to
compare this historical situation with the perception of new media and
the
information society in today's literature. I've been working with Honore
de
Balzac and discovered that there was a lot of parallels to the
situation
today in the way he celebrated, critisized and used the media society
of
his age in Paris in the first half of the 19.th century. Conversely I
felt
that the situation now with everybody's screaming about the Information
Society, the total newness of this social form and how it's going to
change
everything could do with a dose of history and literary understanding.
I
try to study some new American authors (Brett Easton Ellis, Douglas
Coupland, Nicholson Baker and William Gibson) and the way they try to
perceive and deal with this information society, the way they
incorporate
it in narrative and mimetic forms that are part of a literary
(realistic)
tradition. So much for a short introduction to what I'm doing.
But it is a bit difficult to follow what happens in an American context
with the authors I've mentioned and question like these. For example I
know
that both Coupland and Baker created some discussions with their newest
novels ("Microserfs" and "The Fermata") and Gibson
had a new movie out
(Johny Mnemonic which was a failure?). In Denmark I only get the top of
the
iceberg (metaphorically speaking - we don't have any icebergs here) and
it's harder to follow these discussions and get hold of - or even
discover
- new critical works made about these authors. So therefore I depend
much
on the Internet and appreciate comments from and contacts with
researchers
interested in some of the same issues.
Sincerely
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Soeren Pold
Dept. of Comparative Literature    phone: +45 8942 1835 (*new*)
University of Aarhus               fax: +45 8942 1850
Willemoesgade 15                  
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DK-8200  Aarhus N
Denmark
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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 12:24:40 -0400
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From:         John Young 
Subject:      Re: Mail
Comments: cc: aeksp@HUM.AAU.DK
A new novel, "Galatea 2.2," by Richard Powers is apt for this
thread. It thoughtfully explores human-computer creative
interplay.
John Updike praised it and reviewed three other "thought"
novels a while back in a longish New Yorker magazine essay.
If anyone cares to see his piece, send a blank message to
 with the subject: UPD_ike
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Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 18:04:04 -0500
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From:         "C. Jason Smith" 
Subject:      Folwes and Quantum Mech.
What follows is a brief summary of my paper "The Baby Box:
Metaphorical
Existence and Quantum Mechanics in John Fowles' The French Lieutenant's
Woman" which I have already sent to a few individuals. I am working
on
the possibility of downloading it, but have already recieved
"warnings"
about the horrors of downloading.
As to the project of "The Body Electronic" it is very much in
the
formative stage.  At the moment it is trying to crawl out of its
Foucauldian birthplace.  Essentuially, "The Body Electronic"
(an
alteration, of course, of "The Body Electric") is a
postmodern
body-social which is composed entirely of information which may be
reconstructed in differing contexts.  The idea of the "body"
in
cyberspace (William Gibson's _Neoromancer_ and _Count Zero_) for
example,
but also including the "social-body" which I am engaged with
here.
Essentially I propose in the Fowles paper that the two final endings to
TFLW represent two temporal possibilities not unlike "Schrodingers
Cat"
(and I know that S. ended up regretting the whole metaphor) where in
one
possibility/ending a child is born and in the other the child is not
born (at least not to Sarah Watson and Charles
Smithson).  In the final chapter Fowles likens himself-as-narrator to
"a
gamma ray particle" which is somehow responsible for the different
endings and the possibility of time travel/alteration.  I also link
this
concept to Lewis Carroll's _Sylvie and Bruno_ which features a watch
capapble of stopping time and running time backwards. Oh, and Martin
Gardner's _The Ambidextrous Universe_ as well.
On the side I make a few stabs at Chaos Theory--but they are only
tentative as I was dealing primarilly with information which would have
been
available to Fowles at the time of composition.
Anyway, that's about the gist of it (sans the "feminist"
implications).
I will reply in more detail to individual later.  It's VERY nice to
hear
that others are thinking about some of the same issues.  I was
beginning
to feel as if I was living in a void.
Jason Smith
University of Arkansas
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Date:         Wed, 13 Sep 1995 00:29:13 -0400
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From:         Joseph Conte 
Organization: University at Buffalo
Subject:      Re: French Lieutenant and Quantum Mechanics
While it may already be familiar to many of the list members, an
excellent book that relates quantum mechanics to postmodern fiction,
though not Fowles's FLW unfortunately, is Susan Strehle, _Fiction in
the Quantum Universe (UNCUP 1992).  I stronyly recommend it, though
I'm loathe to summarize its arguments here.
Joseph Conte
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From:         Wayne Miller 
Subject:      Literature & Science Syllabi Database on-line!
Hi,
The Literature & Science Syllabi Database is now available for your
perusal
(all of two entries!) and additions. It's designed to be automated, but
you
are encouraged to contact me or send in Web feedback if you have any
difficulties or suggestions.
The URL is:
http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/projects/sls/syllabi/
I am only just beginning to list the thing, so it will not be easy to
find
by other methods. It is listed on the "UCLA Humanities" Web
home page and
on a "Voice of the Shuttle" web page:
http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/
http://humanitas.ucsb.edu/
I hope that it proves to be useful to all of us.
Wayne
/-------------------------------------------------------/
Wayne Miller                     waynem@humnet.ucla.edu
Germanic Languages               2326 Murphy Hall, UCLA
Humanities Computing Facility    343 Kinsey Hall,  UCLA
(310) 206-2004                   FAX:    (310) 825-7428
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From:         vipin adhlakha 
Subject:      unsubscription
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could take me off the list please
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From:         "Espen S. Ore" 
Subject:      ALLC/ACH '96 Call for Papers
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ASSOCIATION FOR LITERARY AND LINGUISTIC COMPUTING
ASSOCIATION FOR COMPUTERS AND THE HUMANITIES
JOINT INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ALLC-ACH '96
JUNE 25-29, 1996 UNIVERSITY OF BERGEN, NORWAY
CALL FOR PAPERS
This conference -- the major forum for literary, linguistic and
humanities
computing -- will highlight the development of new computing
methodologies
for research and teaching in the humanities, the development of
significant
new computer-based resources for humanities research, especially
focusing
on developing applications.
TOPICS: The Association for Literary and Linguistic Computing and the
Association for Computing and the Humanities invite submissions on
topics
and applications focused on the humanities disciplines, such as:
languages
and literature, history, philosophy, music, art, linguistics,
anthropology
and archaeology, creative writing, cultural studies, etc. We are
interested
in receiving technical proposals that focus on the cutting edge issues
of
the application of scientific tools and approaches to humanities
disciplines; discipline-based proposals that focus on some of the more
traditionally defined applications of computing in humanities
disciplines,
including text encoding, hypertext, text corpora, computational
lexicography, statistical models, and syntactic, semantic, stylistic
and
other forms of text analysis; broad library and research-based
proposals
that focus on significant issues of text documentation and information
retrieval; and tools-focused proposals that offer innovative and
substantial applications and uses for humanities-based teaching and
research, throughout the academic and research worlds. Submissions on
humanities computing in developing countries and
software/courses/courseware in undergraduate education are welcomed.
The official language is English.
The deadline for submissions is 30 NOVEMBER 1995.
REQUIREMENTS: Proposals should describe substantial and original work.
Those that concentrate on the development of new computing
methodologies
should make clear how the methodologies are applied to research and/or
teaching in the humanities, and should include some critical assessment
of
the application of those methodologies in the humanities. Those that
concentrate on a particular application in the humanities (e.g., a study
of
the style of an author) should cite traditional as well as
computer-based
approaches to the problem and should include some critical assessment
of
the computing methodologies used. All proposals should include
conclusions
and references to important sources.
INDIVIDUAL PAPERS: Abstracts of 1500-2000 words should be submitted for
presentations of thirty minutes including questions.
SESSIONS: Proposals for sessions (90 minutes) are also invited. These
should take the form of either:
(a) Three papers. The session organizer should submit a 500-word
statement
describing the session topic, include abstracts of 1000-1500 words for
each
paper, and indicate that each author is willing to participate in the
session; or
(b) A panel of up to six speakers. The panel organizer should submit an
abstract of 1500 words describing the panel topic, how it will be
organized, the names of all the speakers, and an indication that each
speaker is willing to participate in the session.
POSTERS AND DEMONSTRATIONS
ALLC-ACH '96 will include poster presentations and software and project
demonstrations (either stand-alone or in conjunction with poster
presentations) to give researchers an opportunity to present
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results, significant work in progress, well-defined problems, or
research
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By definition, poster presentations are less formal and more
interactive
than a standard talk. Poster presenters will have the opportunity to
exchange ideas one-on-one with attendees and to discuss their work in
detail with those most deeply interested in the same topic. Posters are
actually several large pieces of paper that present an overview of a
topic
or a problem. Poster presenters are given space to display two or three
posters, and may provide handouts with examples or more detailed
information.
Poster presenters must be present at their posters at a specific time
during the conference to describe their work and answer questions, but
posters will remain displayed throughout the conference. Specific times
will also be assigned for software or project demonstrations. Further
information on poster presentations is available from the Program
Committee
chair.
Posters proposals and software and project demonstrations will be
accepted
until January 15, 1996 to provide an opportunity for submitting very
current work that need not be written up in a full paper. Poster or
software/project demonstration proposals should contain a 300 to 500
word
abstract in the same format described below for paper proposals.
Proposals
for software or project demonstrations should indicate the type of
hardware
that would be required if the proposal is accepted.
Doctoral students are encouraged to consider poster submission as a
viable
means for discussing ongoing dissertation research.
As part of its commitment to promote the development and application of
appropriate computing in humanities scholarship, the Association for
Literary and Linguistic Computing  will award up to five bursaries of up
to
500 GB pounds each to students and young scholars who have papers
accepted
for presentation at the conference.  Applicants must be members of
ALLC,
and must be aged 30 years or less at the start of the conference. Those
wishing to be considered for an award should indicate this in their
conference proposal.  The ALLC will make the awards  after the
Programme
Committee have decided which proposals are to be  accepted.  Recipients
will be notified as soon as  possible thereafter.  A participant in a
multi-author paper is eligible  for an award, but it must be clear that
s/he is contributing  substantially to the paper.
FORMAT OF SUBMISSIONS
Electronic submissions are strongly encouraged. Please pay particular
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